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"Natural progression": Unpacking Yumi Zouma's sonic shift with Josh Burgess and Charlie Ryder

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Newstalk ZB,
Publish Date
Sat, 7 Feb 2026, 1:58pm
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"Natural progression": Unpacking Yumi Zouma's sonic shift with Josh Burgess and Charlie Ryder

Author
Newstalk ZB,
Publish Date
Sat, 7 Feb 2026, 1:58pm

Yumi Zouma is the gold standard for ethereal dream-pop. 

But after a decade together, the Kiwi quartet has decided to push the envelope, taking strides into a heavier rock sound.  

Their fifth studio album, ‘No Love Lost To Kindness’, is a turning point, filled with themes of confrontation, disillusionment, risk, and honesty. 

The band’s guitarists, Josh Burgess and Charlie Ryder, joined Jack Tame to discuss the album, its creation, and the decade they’ve been creating together.  

Ryder told Tame that while there’s a big juxtaposition between this album and their previous body of work, it was a natural progression. 

“We listen to a lot of music of all genres, that includes like, rock music, heavy stuff, and at the time, I think, yeah, it made sense for us to go in more of a grungier, harder direction.” 

“After releasing five albums, and I guess like, 100 songs, you can’t just keep doing the same thing over and over again.” 

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